Friday, February 20, 2009

God is Dead and we have killed him!

As you well know, my class right now is a philosophy class. I was very concerned at the beginning of the class. I have always HATED philosophy classes. The main reason is that all that I have taken int he past have been about tearing down religion, about proving (as if they could) that there is no God and that life is in all actuality only what we make of it and for the most part meaningless outside of ourselves. So naturally I started this class nervous and scared that I would have to deal with that attitude again.

The class from the beginning has gone exceptionally well. Not at all what I had expected it to be. Maybe it was a fresh outlook on it. Philosophy being used to explain my religion instead of tear it down. Philosophy giving the words to be able to speak to others who have no real clue about philosophy but for some reason understand its principals enough to be dangerous. Anyways, it has been going very well. I received a 25/25 on my first essay. I will post it later. I have been cautious to do that since, anyone could pick it up and plagerize me. But I will post it later.

So that all being said, this past week, I was introduced to Nietzsche who is the author of the quote I have chosen for the title of this post. And wow, was I ready to scream. My class that I had just learned to deal with and appreciate was about to be thrown out the window. Until I read it in context and at that point I nearly cried like a baby because what he was saying has come to fruition today. Read it and let me know your gut reaction. It may take a time or two to really get what he is saying. But tell me what it makes you feel! I'm writing my next essay on this. (And I don't know why it is called "The Gay Science." I haven't read the whole book, just this portion. I am going to go buy it though.)

THE GAY SCIENCE
Friedrich Nietzsche

Friedrich W. Nietzsche (1844-1944), a German Romantic philosopher, was born in Rochen, a Prussian province Saxony. His academic training was in Theology, Classical Languages and literature at the University of Bonn. He was a Professor at
the University of Basle until 1879 when he resigned for health reasons.

The Madman. Have you ever heard of the madman who on a bright morning lighted a lantern and ran to the market-place calling out unceasingly: "I seek God! I seek God!" As there were many people standing aboutwho did not believe in God, he caused a great deal of amusement. Why? is he lost? said one. Has he strayed away like a child? Said another. Or does he keep himself hidden? Is he afraid of us? Has he taken a sea voyage? Has he emigrated? - the people cried out laughingly, all in a hubbub. The insane man jumped into their midst and transfixed them with his glances. "Where is God gone?" he called out. "I mean to tell you! We have killed him, you and I! We are all his murderers! But how have we done it? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the whole horizon? What did we do when we loosened this earth from its sun? Whither does it now move? Whither do we move? Away from all suns? Do we not dash on unceasingly? Backwards, sideways, forwards, in all directions? Is there still an above and below? Do we not
stray, as through infinite nothingness? Does not empty space breathe upon us? Has it not become colder? Does not night come on continually, darker and darker? Shall we not have to light lanterns in the morning? Do we not hear the noise of the grave-diggers who are burying God? Do we not smell the divine putrefaction? - for even Gods putrefy! God is dead! God remains dead! And we have killed him! How shall we console ourselves, the most murderous of all murderers? The holiest and the mightiest that the world has hitherto possessed, has bled to death under our knife - who will wipe the blood from us? With what water could we cleanse ourselves? What lustrums, what sacred games shall we have to devise? Is not the magnitude of this deed too great for us? Shall we not ourselves have to become Gods, merely to seem worthy of it? There never was a greater event - and on account of it, all who are born after us belong to a higher history than any history hitherto!"

Here the madman was silent and looked again at his hearers; they also were silent and looked at him in surprise. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, so that it broke in pieces and was extinguished. "I come too early," he then said. "I am not yet at the right time. This prodigious event is still on its way, and is traveling - it has not yet reached men's ears. Lightning and thunder need time, the light of the stars needs time, deeds need time, even after they are done, to be seen and heard. This deed is as yet further from them than the furthest star - and yet they have done it themselves!"

It is further stated that the madman made his way into different churches on the same day, and there intoned his Requiem aeternam deo. When led out and called to account, he always gave the reply: "What are these churches now, if they are not the tombs and monuments of God?"

6 comments:

Heather said...

Interesting... Though we can't kill God, many have chosen to just ignore him, and his commands and I am guilty of that. Best Wishes with your class.

Kenny Foster said...

As a Christian and a Philosopher, It has long upset me that Christians would fight philosophy.. That we would take phrases like Nietzsche's out of context and use them as heads on spikes to parade around.. As if by doing so, we've shown our complete and utter disregard for logic or reason and "sold out" as it were to blind faith.. So for decades we American Christians have preached against one of the strongest tools we have for ministering to others outside of faith... Neither the Christian explanation for life, nor the scientific explanation for life take us everywhere we want to go.. Both require a leap of faith.. Either to believe that this was planned (or that it was all happenstance) takes a belief in a thing that we cannot be entirely sure of... Hence, faith... However, berating an entire study of thought like Philosophy in fear that it will "trick us" or that it is somehow "blasphemous", is to hold in contempt one of the very faculties with which we were armed by God to bring others and ourselves in closer relationship with him... It's as if we'd rather not seek the knowledge of God, we merely want someone to make us feel better about what we already believe.. We want a new law.. We care not for study, or sacrifice, or effort in our relationship with Him... We would much rather take phrases out of context to get a rise out of everyone else who doesn't do their homework... (The same could be said for many of our Scripture lessons as well)

I'm glad that your furthered study of Nietzsche has led you to a deeper understanding of his infamous quote.. May enlightenment serve to shine even more brightly upon the One who made you and lead you further into His truth...

Sharon said...

Heather - I don't think Nietzsche was speaking of the literal killing of God, I believe he was indeed mourning our withdrawal from God...our withdrawal from God is basically killing God in our lives...it's hiding our light under a bushel or even blowing it out every chance we get....God is eternal and cannot be literally killed.

Kenny Foster said...

You would be right in saying that Nietzsche's quote has been taken out of context (specifically by Christians) for a while now, but would not be correct in thinking he was pro-Christian or at least leaning negatively on the departure from God, that would also serve to misinterpret them..

In fact, if he found his words being used to support the need for all of us to get back to God, he might be pretty hacked about that as well..

If we're going with context here, Nietzsche was a hopeful atheist.. He found more power in the belief of self actualization than in an intangible god (lowercase on purpose)..

In his other writings Nietzsche purports the idea that only when we can discredit morality as a system to measure actions by, will any of us be truly free.

He has a firm belief in man's "will to power".. The ability to make what would come his way possible by willing it to happen by any means necessary...

Of course I think this is a this is largely due to his reaction growing up as the only male his German-Jewish household before WWII, but that's only one man's interpretation... :)

Although it is not unhelpful to point out the truths that he saw to be self-evident.. He's very convincing in his arguments because of his skill at rhetoric, but it is holding to what you know to be True (capital on purpose) within his writings and applying the depth to which he carries his arguments to your arguments as well that will help us all come to a truer understanding of our own...

Whether we like it or not, Frederic Nietzsche is also a child of God, and therefore, made in His image, and I think THAT is the beauty of the Apostle Paul's use of historically relevant art and writings during his preaching days... Using things outside of Christianity that has connected with the populous and show how it actually (and ultimately) points to the one true God...

The idea that Truth exists everywhere regardless of medium... It is our jobs to find a way to use the Truth in all things to point towards the Kingdom of God and to know everything we can in the process..

James and Sue MacFarlane said...

Hey I got through. It is great to study and beable to reach others in ther sphere of interest or study, yet is the leap of faith to belief in Christ alone. Most all believe in a god. It is sacrifice of the Son that is important. Most of my philosopht was around mankind and not God. Yet I believe we all seek God and many get hung up on the right way to reach him.. also we are chosen by God and searches and reaches for us. These things are written that I might know....

Julie said...

I would have to agree with all the others, and my initial gut reaction was just the fact that this text itself points out the fact that God cannot be killed literally, but figuratively we can push Him out of our lives...

 
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